We are doing cybersecurity metrics wrong! There are better ways and my guest Rick Howard, the CSO at N2K and longtime cybersecurity metrics expert, provides insights into how metrics can support cybersecurity programs and decisions. This is a timely topic as there are more pressures on CISOs, from new regulations, emerging standards, higher Board expectations, and SEC enforcements, that are increasing the need for better cybersecurity metrics.

Rick and I probably had too much fun in this podcast, arguing and bantering. He brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table. I look forward to our next chat!

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Be sure to check out his books, course, podcasts, and the booklist from the Cybersecurity Canon Project:

Book: Cybersecurity First Principles: A Reboot of Strategy and Tactics

https://www.amazon.com/Cybersecurity-First-Principles-Strategy-Tactics/dp/1394173083

First Principles Free Course

https://www.n2k.com/cybersecurity-first-principles-course

The Cybersecurity Canon Project

http://cybersecuritycanon.com/bookreviews

Rick Howard Podcast on The CyberWire - CSO Perspectives

https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public

Cyberwire Network - The Cyberwire’s Network of Security Podcasts

https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts